Why I will no longer post to YouTube

[marko_the_rat]

Last night I left my computer uploading a new Rattus video to YouTube, one I'd been working on since December last year and my first HD video of Rattus. Because I didn't want to give the copyright trolls any gristle to work with, I took care to only use music released under Creative Commons and to abide by any CC licensing requirements. But when I checked it this morning I found YouTube had content ID matched part (or all) of the soundtrack to Rumblefish. At first I thought YouTube's automated content matcher had made a mistake and I disputed the claim, but Harvard showed me different. Rumblefish was supposed to be a service letting small indie creators like myself add copyrighted music to their videos at a nominal cost, but they have been adding Creative Commons music to their catalogue which YouTube then picks up and overlays advertising on otherwise royalty-free videos to pay rumblefish's royalties (and no doubt claim a share of the advertising revenue themselves). This is the last straw. I will not be party to letting a third party make revenue from other creators' work without paying anything back or value adding in any way. Better creators than me have already deserted YouTube and I know I will not be the last. How many do they need to lose until they care? Google have a delicate balancing act to play with copyright holders, but in this case they slipped and missed the net. Creators release their work under Creative Commons for a reason: so it can be distributed as widely as possible. Rumblefish, whether intentionally or not, is restricting that without paying anything back.

In future, the most I will upload to YouTube are teasers directing viewers to my Vimeo account.

Comments

[booga1.livejournal.com]

Hey there. I think I found the culprit.
(note: I stopped searching after I found this one, there may be more)

The artist Dhruva Aliman put their music on Friendly Music(partnered with Rumblefish, or subsidiary of some sort). Bardos is in there.
http://www.friendlymusic.com/#nav=L2h0bWwtcGFnZXMvc2VhcmNoLXJlc3VsdHMuaHRtbA%3D%3D&search=S2V5d29yZHMlM0RiYXJkb3M%3D

All Youtube knows is that it's registered under the Rumblefish partnership and it wasn't licensed with that particular partnership.

I found the music on Beatpick as well and under the artists name is this link to the attribution non-commercial share-alike license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

However, if I click on license music on Bardos, it wanted to charge some "donation" money(£3). So, there's a bit of a mismatch under what one can find for this single piece of music. There's even options costing $200 or more for this same piece if it's commercial usage.

It's even on Amazon for $.99, but no licensing so I guess it's just there to listen to.

The hardest part is that Youtube filters can't tell if music was licensed properly from somewhere else the artist offered the music.

It's a real catch 22 situation where artists can put music up anywhere under any license, but if they ALSO put it up with any Rumblefish partner, the Youtube videos will get flagged, tagged, advertisements and/or suspended.

[marko-the-rat.livejournal.com]

If Dhruva uploaded it to Rumblefish himself, he presumably would (at least in theory) get some revenue when Rumblefish slap advertising on my video and I don't object to that of course, but it puts me in a difficult position. (The links I found suggested Rumblefish did a scoop of Creative Commons music for a free revenue stream.) I got the music from Beatpick and received a license to use it in my non-profit internet-only work, but it now seems that's worthless when YouTube will automatically override it. Also, it technically forces me to violate the CC licenses I agreed to with some of the other songs I used because, at least as far as YouTube is concerned I can't release my video under Creative Commons and although I can only use them for non-commercial purposes Rumblefish will still be earning money from them even though Dhruva's song is only a small part of the soundtrack. Even though I really like that song, I might have to find something else.

[booga1.livejournal.com]

You could always try contacting Dhruva with info about the situation. Maybe he's unaware of what's going on.
Of course, the easy answer is to substitute the song if it's not possible to work things out.

[marko-the-rat.livejournal.com]

BTW, it's on the basis of this link that I'm not sure if Dhruva uploaded it himself or Rumblefish helped themselves:

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/rumblefish-dmca-content-id-claim-fix-it-w-o-namefaging-self.37224/

But if that's the only song out of the ones I used that they have in their catalogue it's possible Dhruva did upload it himself, although he probably shouldn't be offering it on BeatPick as well because they clearly conflict.

[booga1.livejournal.com]

Dhruva has quite a few songs on the Rumblefish partner, probably most of them.

Thanks for the link. I had tried searching for "rumblefish stole my music/song" and similar, but didn't come up with anything. I couldn't find anything where artists were complaining about Rumblefish and Youtube.

On the link you mention, it doesn't seem like there were any replies. I'm not entirely sure whether the person that started that thread was complaining about his own works being misused, or whether he's just confused about copyright issues.

If a work is in the public domain, anyone can do anything they want with it, including selling it outright for things like Rumblefish. Disney made their empire off public domain stories.